http://www.endometriose-liga.eu/node/20423
You might remember this thread from the harvesting by Dr. Mettler to Dr. Kruschinski.
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It does seem a good Kru place to send harvesters!!
There is no person named Tanja on the german patient contact list...curious. Is it Kru writing or perhaps Miltenburger or Marzena???
Is this her?
Bonaventura-Kleber
tanja@klebers.de
+49 (0) 6873 / 668589
Nonnweiler
Adhesiolysis via gasless laparoscopyDate: 10.10.2003
Yes
But she had her surgery in 2003??? Very Curious? This Tanja as she relates in her harvesting surmons states she never heard of Kru till 2007.
Babelfish translation of German:
‹strong hypogastric region cramps are 4 weeks contact with Endo concerning›
Growing together by Endo
Tanja
So, 04/11/2007 - 20:57
Hello to all,
are only for few minutes member here in the forum….and it frightens me, as many must suffer in such a way under the Endo. It is incomprehensible!
I am only geoutet since July this yearly as a Endo female patient.
Here times (briefly) my history, whose pain process is again-reflected perhaps also with many different:
In November 2005 I got unbelievably strong pain in the belly on a return flight of Berlin. To locate exactly I could not do it, it was unbelievably strong pain, it me hardly made possible to breathe or go.
After I then landed and sometime at home was, I went to my Gyn, since I assumed the pain in this direction. It examined me immediately and could nothing determine! To some extent reassuring I was involved then home and told myself that it was perhaps simply one ´Magenverstimmung `.
Further weeks passed, in which this colic-like Schmerzattaken became ever more inteniver. In January 2006 I was then admitted by emergency surgeon from my working premises in the hospital, because I am together broken before loud pain. In the KH one pushed me in the OI, with the diagnosis immediately `for blind intestine break-through `.
I had to wait still some minutes, until I was pushed in the OI (which a luck), when a physician discovered me on the corridor. He asked me, what is loose, since I probably devastatingly go out have must. I did not explain to him my pain and he meant `that am immediately a blind intestine! “”. Thus the OI again, I was called off was thoroughly examined (one does not have that before really done) and one assumed then that I something at the volume disk (!!!!!) would have.
I was first times ill written and was allowed to try some pain killers out, which were limited to volume disk complaints. These tablets did not fasten (naturally). My physician sent me then again into the KH, where one wanted to take again my blind intestine to me raus. But my pain was not the typical blind intestine pain like we it all. I could move my leg easily and all other tests, obs the blind intestine am, did not point also to blind intestine or blind intestine provoking.
I suffered further before me, visited my Gyn again. It examined me again and excluded blind intestine. Which I could have however, she could not say to me also. She explained to me sometime that I was not to employ myself in such a way to be able to bear women there would be now times for it around pain! Women and not the men in vain do not get children!
Wow… which an impact in the face. I was rather depressive, since the pain now was times there and I hardly still Kraft had.
My house lady doctor, I vergöttere it, accepted me mine really absolutely affectionately. It was the only one, which believed me my pain again and again. She had never doubted my pain and had always piece by piece continued to examine me. My inflammation values in the blood, which were so-called Leukos in the meantime 500 x more highly than it be have actually might.
Sometime in September 2006 it let my blood on Endometriose examine. I know that one cannot recognize Endo on the basis of blood… however asks me not like… her me with this diagnosis to a belly reflection instruct let. This Bs was made of my Gyn.
The Bs took place in October 2006. The result, which to me my lady doctor explained still at the patient bed (I was not fortunately alone… otherwise would have I doubted my understanding) was: No Endometriose was found, everything is clean, but I would have there a few small growing together. The intestine grew together with the abdominal wall. But that my complaints could be impossible. It entlies me, and I was rather helpless.
I had thus no Endo, but she told me which of adhesions (growing together). I got then the written findings of my Gyn sometime…. here however nothing did not stand from growing together in it. I called innumerable marks with it, so that she provides me nevertheless please the findings, which she had announced to me in the Kh.
But nothing came!
However on my statement, my house lady doctor transferred me for intestine reflection. The health insurance company is naturally revved up, there these costs not simply in such a way takes over… and my growing together was for the pure assumption, since not in the findings of the Gyn emerged. My poor house lady doctor has genuinly a hard fight with the health insurance company (KH) put down….it has me fast a date for intestine reflection anxiously…. !
In March 07 I then the belly reflection made. The findings: Growing together in the high stage! They are so strong that no Gastroendrologe would guess/advise me to a OI, since each OI pulls new growing together with itself.
I was in zig hospitals and from all heard I only that they could not operate me, since the risk was too large!
Result now: My (inzw. ) Gyn at that time has the only ´kleinen and unimportant `growing together simply again ´zu gemacht´. Me told, small and those would not be would be responsible for my suffering. I was speechless. It let go me simply in such a way and I had to rausfinden, from which I actually suffer.
The time passed and I could slowly nothing more eat, I in the meantime 12 Kilos had removed, since each food intake and drink höllische pain verusachte, since the intestine moves always directly, as soon as one which eats.
I had despaired much and I noticed that I came ever more near to a depression. I had to live no more desire, my purposes in life turned out for me completely except range of vision.
By accident mine, in the meantime also desperate friend, discovered a hospital in Braunschweig, which had specialized in growing together and Endometriose in the Internet.
I have yourself the hospital in the Internet respected…. it was a special physician, who operated with a singular procedure, which can solve growing together, and which renewed an arising of growing together around 85% reduce can.
Wow….I saw a light at the end of the tunnel.
Then the next impact came: It was a pure private hospital, and I am not private separate panel patient! Thus… did not fit then.
The light at the end of the tunnel erlischte just as fast, how it up-blazed!
I made myself in the Internet (praised was net: =)!) over the physician from Braunschweig, Dr. Daniel Kruschinski and Endogyn.de well-informed. The reports made me speechless. Here women were the one nearly similar suffering way behind itself had, and who could of endogyn are helped. Incomprehensibly. I was speechless. Since I am by nature sceptical and did not believe many reports in net also directly, recherschierte I, and took up personally contact to some patients. These confirmed all which I had already reread.
I contact this hospital, explained my suffering and the physician (where there is that already) recalled me. He meant, I would be a classical case for its hospital. There it would have only patients, who would already suffer for years, and to long suffering way to it would only come.
It would immediately operate me and I within two weeks a date in Braunschweig have gotten could. But. .da was still the question of cost!
Now the fight began with my health insurance company, which rejected naturally first times the assumption of the costs! In the Einspruchsverfahren and with angel tongues and much Zureden and the pertinent mad specialist I got then the assumption of the costs much. A part (the spray gel) I however must pay, since this no appreciative medicine is!
Super… it can go now loosely.
My next date I received then for the 23.07.07 and second looki (with this OI the kind is always necessary) to 30.07.07 in Braunschweig.
I must say to the fact that Braunschweig lies far away from me from approx. 700 km!
I came thus to 22.07. in the hospital on….and me the breath came to a hold….however the sight of this hospital, the mad personnel,…. here one can become only healthy.
The physician then still came to me and discussed in detail the OI on the next day with me.
So far my briefing was expressed still in adhesions (growing together). Dr. Kruschinski explained to me however that growing together only one consequence of something was, never a cause. There there must still which other one be. He asked me whether I would have already left myself on Endo to examine (Bs).
Endo? This Endo, which I do not have, as per lady doctor from October 2006?
As also is, the OI ran on the next day complicationless and the diagnosis of the Mr. Dr. Kruschinski read me in tears break out: He still came at the waking up bed to me and meant: I can draw a deep breath, my pain have finally a cause, and which he could remove.
My entire abdominal cavity, all organs, everything in my abdominal cavity ...... was stricken with Endometriose in advanced stage. This Endometriose released these growing together with me. In the meantime 80% of my entire intestine were grown together and thus only Knäuel.Daher also my enormously high leukocytes of values!
Already one day later I could eat again light things,… and without pain. It was simply fantastic. The OI pain were a Klacks against the past pain .......!
The hospital in Braunschweig, the sugar mountain hospital, the physician, Dr. Kruschinski as well as its entire team are simply class. And I am simply only gratefully that I had the possibility, there in this hospital by this physician and team to be operated.
Special at the OI method of Mr. Dr. Kruschinski is that it supplies the internal wounds with that so-called spray gel. One can describe this gel like a kind silicone layer. There it puts on the wound, and does not prevent deformed (which develops within 7 days after Verwundung, thereafter any longer) it like a glide layer on the wound is and nothing because of it to settle can. In addition Mr. Dr. Kruschinski operates gasless.
With each BS or belly OI the abdominal cavity is filled up with gas, so that one comes better to the appropriate places. Dr. Kruschinksi makes it with a kind sucks in from the outside. The abdominal wall easily from the outside raised….thus the abdominal cavity is preserved, and avoided those by the injuries possibly resulting from the gas filling completely.
The second OI, one week later it serves only for the fact over to look whether the gel remained also, where it was laid on, and whether new growing together formed. The gel is completely reduced from the body, without side effects. These second OI was relative ´erträglich´, as Ops are stop times like that. But it was all ok, and now stop of everything must zuheilen in the entire abdominal cavity only.
Now some week, in the meantime I the Valette and the jasmine passed as pill got, and at present I try again a new, since I had with the other two extreme side effects.
Again there my complaints however are. I have again strong bellyache, and my Gyn (not from October 2006!!! , but a new) assumes now the colorless Endo! One can say this however again only if one operates.
I took up again contact to Dr. Kruschinski, and of my pain tells him. It would like to again operate me, since it likewise assumed that it formed new growing together (in other places).
Clearly, one could now say: Super, which has then the first OI brought? If now already again everything is so bad?
But if I remember that none me wanted to operate, eat I nothing more could and the Endo was not at all discovered, am nevertheless grateful I for the first OI. In addition one said to me a relapse ratio of over 90% with a OI in the conventional hospital ahead…. with Dr. Kruschinski is it only 10-15%! And I can locate that the pain is not any more in the places, where they before were….thus at least causal growing together did not come resting and again.
Now I have a renewed date to 28.11. in the sugar mountain hospital in Braunschweig with Mr. Dr. Kruschinski. I set again large hope into these OI that can be finally completely helped to me. I hope that I this colorless Endo do not have… otherwise go for me the Märtyrium again from the front loosely….! My health insurance company has me the assumption of the costs again assured, this time even without objection! I must pay only again the spray gel!
Who has experience with the colorless Endo???? My Gyn meant that here actually only those could help totally OI. But if I read the reports in such a way here, also no universal remedy seems to be. Because, if the Gebährmutter were removed, still report many of the Endo, from which they suffer.
The pill seems to work no wonders with me also, because otherwise the Endo would not again have come.
Although I cannot say 100% industrial union that I have again the Endo, perhaps there is this time only the growing together. I can say that only if I have the OI again behind me.
I find it real frightening, how very much one is alone left, and how few actually know the physicians about Endo. If one turns out not by accident at one itself busily with it more intensively, then one is nevertheless really lost, or? Each 10te woman suffers nevertheless from Endo. .wieso is the science there still in children's shoes? For me that is incomprehensible everything. One slope ELT of a physician on the other hand and waits oneself constantly only off… whether any tablets or renewed Ops shows finally effect.
I would like each woman, who suffers Endogyn from Endo to the heart puts. Power you at least times well-informed, how the physician operates and which he says about Endo. Under http://66.196.80.202/babelfish/translate_url_content?.intl=us&lp=de_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.endogyn.de%2f can provide you for it a first picture.
Do not let you deter from the fact that it is in Braunschweig, and the fact that there eternally far possibly away of you at home ....... rather some hundreds from kilometer drives… and has a high probability of the free andness in the bag, when constantly physicians in the closer environment, which has little notion, visit, and precious time into the country go to let.
Also the fight with the health insurance company can be won, I and some different in the hospital with me was also creative, not be had it there…. such hurdles should one back frighten to seize chances.
I be gladly to everyone at the disposal, which closer information to Endogyn to have would like or questions to me has.
I did not heal even (apparently) yet, but I have a glimmer of hope…. which I gladly with others to divide would like.
I greet you completely cordially.
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Hello Tanja, have me straight
minou
Mo, 05/11/2007 - 12:12
Hello Tanja,
have me straight times by yours (short!!!!) History read.
To me it was issued similarly. Pain of cramps up to the cycle collapse and none knew why. To I by accident (my FÄ was in vacation) to the ha went believed me and guessed myself/advised to the immediate intestine reflection, there Endo then entdeckt.OP followed then and the pain caught after 4 months, the FÄ took me again not seriously and it was again the ha me guessed/advised the FÄ to change, it followed still another a OI and still one and today I healed. I am very grateful my ha. Even if always the has one grumbles, mine is sharpens. I got the hint from the consulting hour assistance, which he passionately gladly cake and pastry eat, I at the incoming goods with the Christmas baker's shop began. And now you may guess who the first Plätzchen and lugs get. I wish you further all Gute.Minou
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Rear Minou, when was
Tanja
Mo, 05/11/2007 - 14:44
Rear Minou,
when were your last OI? ´Wie for a long time you have peace? Are you really perfectly pain-free? Sounds oneself too beautifully, in order to be true! If like that it is then press I you further the thumbs that it remains in such a way!
That makes the other (inclusive me) courage to strike itself by the further Ops!
I find that very nice,…. with the Plätzchen for your Doc! Think, those need anyway much more thanks… usually are it nevertheless our family doctors, who do at most for us.
For my house lady doctor I flowers bring along, and me during the consulting hour (have me before naturally a date gotten ) you thanks you. It was so glad and grateful that I esteem its work in such a way….!
Cordial greetings Tanja
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Rear Tanja, again I. In
minou
Mo, 05/11/2007 - 16:56
Rear Tanja, again I.
In January `06wurde me Endo, which removes Gebärmutter and a piece intestine, then I had 4 months Ruhe.Im August `06 had I a Laparaskopie, because in the Douglas liquid had collected itself. In November `06 I had then the 2.Bauchschnitt OI, the liquid, which became ovaries and smaller Endoherde far away. Since then I am not pain-free, I had only the usual Wechseljahresbeschwerden.Im May ´07 still one scar ago ever was then repaired, I had the 3.Bauchschnitt.Jetzt have myself a Haematom in an educated manner where the net implantiert, but we wait times off whether it itself from alone discharged, pain let us have I none.
The change yearly complaints are also faded away, thus feel I pudelwohl.
If I read so some history here, becomes conscious me, what I had for a luck.
I wish you a beautiful Abend.Minou
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Dr. Kruschinski growing together
Ilka
Mi, 28/11/2007 - 19:42
Hello,
Tanja, I would call it gladly. Inmoment do not get I my problem in write form so correctly. Very unfangreich and Dr. Kruschinski operated at that time 2006 only in Rotthalmünster. I live in grass life, my telephone number 05xx7/99xxx9. I would have absolutely again to him, at that time was only possible before the OI a private investigation (55,00Euro). Please communicate to me their telephone number, perhaps experience I new (hospital sugar mountain was at that time only possible with private payment). As said with me substantial physician errors happened and none wanted to help. (2001 to 2003 mehere OI, s) with friendly greeting, also to all
ILKA
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Hello Ilka, became to
Tanja
Di, 04/12/2007 - 12:29
Hello Ilka,
to 28.11.07 in the sugar mountain hospital in Braunschweig by Mr. Dr. Kruschinski one operated again.
Again it solved me growing together and went it probably this time without spray gel. Likewise again very large and many Endo herd were found,… and this within only fewer weeks. The last OI was at the beginning of of August 07!
But now for execution with Dr. Kruschinski!
I find, it am so simple everything, and with Mr. Dr. Kruschinski and but am so grateful so uncomplicatedly I.
It helped me with the fight with my health insurance company, because since I had last week a second time after Braunschweig, it wanted to place itself with the assumption of the costs again crosswise, and tell me that it would be probably then a OI error of the physician, if I had to be operated now after so few weeks again.
Incomprehensibly. From Endo and growing together seem no notion to have.
All the same. In the long run everything folded again, the cash the OI and `the Unterkunft´ in the hospital transferred, only the costs of the spray gel must one if necessary pay.
I am Sunday already again home, am however naturally still very weak and finished. There we approx. 4 hr. car to drive had are each time nevertheless very strenous it. Since the Endo broke out with me again so strongly, I must be able to be treated now with GNrH analogues further. This takes 6 months, to leave and afterwards will I then again with Mr. Dr. Kruschinski ´antreten `around again all through checken.
I had preliminary talks never. I clarified everything by telephone, and him, if necessary, my past findings zugemailt… everything else ran over email and telephone.
I will announce myself the days to you, at present am still too weak I and ko ......
Love of greetings
Tanja
Cordial greetings Tanja
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Thanks
sunshinekoeln
DO, 13/12/2007 - 17:55
Loves Tanja,
thank you for your detailed information. I assume that I have Endo, since I was already operated 1997 at growing together. Since then no physician ever talked again about it. My hurt as Fibromyalgie were made a diagnosis. Will now times follow to the thing.
The hospital seems to be super. Thanks again.
Greetings you sunshine
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sunshinekoeln
gabi
DO, 13/12/2007 - 18:34
Hello sunshine
From where do your growing together come? Those cannot occur nevertheless simply in such a way??!!?? The Endo lets itself determine UNFORTUNATELY only by a belly reflection. Whether it the true is to be discussed only by telephone and email with a physician so a OI? LG Gabi
Shark Tanja
how were the OI preparations with you made one must min. nevertheless 24 hr. before OI the consent sign (it was with an emergency) or was it only normal consultation? Find I LG Gabi strange
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Hello Gabi, hello
Tanja
Fr, 14/12/2007 - 10:59
Hello Gabi, hello sunshine.
with me growing together were determined, and the local physicians refused operating me because the risk was too large. Was not from Endo at that time still the speech.
Then I am somehow tripped stop in the Internet over the topic growing together with the sugar mountain hospital and Dr. Kruschinski. For a long time I in forums reread, how the physician like that is and how everything runs off. There it here around a private hospital does not act was me completely clear that I can be operated also as panel patient there.
In the long run I was in such a way verzeifelt the fact that I took simply the listener into the hand and called Dr. Kruschinski. I described to it mean disease process and he said that he would operate me, however a diagnosis to only actually place can, if he ´ich me purely looked habe´! (logically… can the others are also only if it one ´offen´ before itself to lie have!)
It made however at the telephone hoping for me, and after I had taken up also still contact with former growing together patients of it, I was convinced of the fact that I must try it. My health insurance company dispatched the assumption of the costs after some back and forth also. Which I must pay, that is so-called spray gel.
Here one transfers a pre-payment to the manufacturing firm, which deliver only then also the gel at Dr. Kruschinski. Ok one, I was sceptically… the money to transfer simply somewhere….but I had to try it!
Journey was one day before the OI. On this day also the discussions with Dr. Kruschinski and the Narkosearzt were as well as like preliminary investigations. Then on the next day the OI, then one week later second look. Again a OI, with which it checks whether new growing together formed, and whether the spray gel held.
Like that it was also with my last OI of two weeks ago ago! Since this time none was necessary second look, I knew three days after the OI home.
As said, it concerns here a private hospital….and I can only say… to me exactly the super well with the healing process helped. One lies in a Einbettzimmer (so I have a few days alone convenient) or at the most in a two-bed room (after a few days am I into 2 a bed room come, here I then a completely dear and new good friend to know learned. =)!). The ambience reminds on everything else, not of a hospital. The cook comes each day and asks, on which one has times hunger. And according to the instructions of the physician and the Gelüste. =) he tinkers then which completely leckeres. Even the mash, which one may only eat stop at first, tasted singularly ingenious.
After that the consumption of the spray gel stood firmly got I the difference time near my account back transferred. I did not have to make anything. And M.E. held themselves these costs still within limits, I were very much surprised.
By nature I am very sceptical and never simply so too sowas be traveled could. I informed before very well and had after the telephone call also direct confidence with Dr. Kruschinski.
Today it still calls from time to time, and asks like it me is issued. Even with questions one can call or anmailen it at any time. It ALWAYS answers!
Where please does it give sowas??? In a normal hospital not, or?
I could be only operated in the future from Dr. KRuschinski….there I feel well waived, over he have condemn myself much notion. It is so not in vain in demand, and a date to get…. not really so simply.
The fight with the health insurance company has itself worthwhile….and alone that with my jetztigen second OI any longer it did not rumgemurrt in such a way it dispatched and me directly the cost promise, shows nevertheless also that is convinced of the OI. Otherwise those would not have consented a second time.
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Tanja
gabi
Fr, 14/12/2007 - 11:28
Hello Tanja
Tschuldige, which was so sceptical I however it sounded so as if everything would be ONLY by telephone gone. The whole sounds genuinly mad. Where is this hospital? I up to now always in the bunting countries hospital with Professor Dr. Schweppe operate let yourself is also a Endo hospital, but such a service did not have I there < - is also no private hospital. Does your health insurance company only such a wind have made because it a private hospital is? Or employ themselves after some OPs in such a way? I have yourself my Zoladex from the pharmacy gotten if one to pay yesterday would have one would become poor 3 syringes to cost 545,52€ is nevertheless the bright sense of true or? LG Gabi
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Tanja
gabi
Fr, 14/12/2007 - 11:38
What is actually for a gel? For what is that good? I (believe I zumindestens) still nothing of heard. Well one hears and let much however I vergess also some again to Gabi
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Hello Gabi, thus the hospital
Tanja
Fr, 14/12/2007 - 15:06
Hello Gabi,
thus the hospital has its seat in Braunschweig and is called sugar mountain hospital. There ' s still another Venenzentrum gives in it as well as the possibility to beauty OP´s would drive through to leave: =) on I will then come next time back, if I eh am again there . Can google times: =) is a mad house!
The health insurance company had at that time rejected because they meant, the solution of the growing together is possible also in every other cash hospital and but must one not after Braunschweig. There they are right also in principle.
But 1. did not want to ooperieren me a cash hospital, and 2. is the characteristic of the OI variant of the Mr. Dr. Kruschinski now times this mentioned spray gel.
The gel it developed in America, there already is it course and gives. It loosens this gel prevented after laying the operated places and that on the growing together that new growing together in these places can form. Since growing together which has with cicatrisation to do, the probability is with a OI that these wounds grow together again very largely. This gel puts like a kind silicone layer on the Wundflächen and prevents thus that the wounds come together.
The growing together take place within the first 7 days after the wound. Therefore also second look. This gel remains 7 days on the places and thereafter from the body without side effects is reduced. The danger of renewed growing together is so smaller around 85% than with a normal OI….and I find also enormously high.
If one considers times that 80% of my intestine had grown together… can one di e surface imagine, which ´wund´ was. and like the risk would highly then have been that from these wounds new growing together would have resulted. But nothing more again did not grow together in the places operated by it! With the last OI there was growing together in other places!
The health insurance company has then also seen that in the long run the minimization of the risk already stands in the relationship, and thus the costs of the OI and accommodation took over. Only the spray gel costs one must carry stop. But I find still, it am worth!
My room neighbour was already 8 times with Dr. Kruschinski, and he tried step by step `the Mist´ other physicians it bucked to bring the row.
Think, which should growing together stop are not also underestimated, and degrees, if one is inclined eh to growing together, then tends one also more to the fact that with wounds fast new growing together form. If then on the wound one is ´Schicht´, the one new deformed not too leaves….nothing more can happen also there: =)
My (very nice) Sachhbearbeiter of the health insurance company meant also that it goes of the fact out that the method is taken up sooner or later as health insurance company achievement… thus to have those probably already more experiences thereby made. My Gastroendrologe at that time meant after the first OI to me (when I told it beaming with joy that there are Heilungsmögichkeiten nevertheless with so strong growing together): Well super that it means that we then never see the patients again?
Ok one to commentate custom I probably more near or? It concerned to those probably only the money….and if the patient healed now times from growing together….then it does not come back also so fast. .kein patient… no money! Class!
With the first OI Dr. Kruschinski has also this gel on the distant Endoherde made…. thereby stop nothing more to settle also there can. There probably nothing new is come….but the Endo actually returned stop elsewhere. And everything ´einsprayen´ is also not possible for stop.
As said, I became at that time only because of growing together there operated, those Endo has he first times rausgefunden.
Lg
Tanja
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Tanja
gabi
Fr, 14/12/2007 - 15:22
That is however a good message I believes itself I will times with the hospital informing, perhaps gives it a possibility of this also with me to make?! Possibly one has chances which one the gel gets however here in such a way and also into the hospital take can (do not believe I rather) attempt makes intelligently! Otherwise the consideration is to Braunschweig to go nearly not badly comes from Westerstede (lies with Oldenburg in Oldenburg) LG Gabi
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Hello Gabi,
Jessy
Fr, 14/12/2007 - 19:35
Hello Gabi,
I was operated already 3 time in the bunting land hospital. And there I read that you were recently also there, I gladly by you was experienced, how it was there and whether it pleased you.
My last OI was there 2002. In April 2008 my 6th BS lines up, I will let which make however in another KH, close of my homeland.
I was at that time very enthusiastic by the bunting land hospital, but miracles to achieve could not do her there also, otherwise I already must not have again a BS. ; -) Of other Endo female patients I property over Westerstede did not only hear. I can imagine with difficulty that in the last years are to have worsened there. Would you communicate your empiric report to me? (Case I nevertheless once again there must).
I thank you.
Love of greetings, Jessy.
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Jessi
gabi
Fr, 14/12/2007 - 22:26
Hello Jessi
I was operated now to the 4x in Westerstede. First time was I still on the old Gyn station those me had not at all pleased, age-old WC and shower oversize course (terrible) the others was I time then already on the new station of everything completely bright and friendly gestalltet, beds was electrically (I have very enjoyed I could the first days because of the gas nich move correctly) the physicians was very nice and had time around questions to answer, that also not oversize room made to then separate one am into the discussion area. Well one could not speak with Professor Schweppe however with the upper physician. The OI Gespäch was made once by a Assistenzärztin and of the operating surgeon, (separately from each other) also the sisters was dear and nice all super! With those one could laugh already in the morning, was for a fun to be always had. No miracles to spend do not know also the physicians however I believe that there you in no hospital will find, unfortunately can the Endo come again and again. I must remove 08 again this time OI with belly cut in March and possibly with intestine partial distance and growing together. I hope you can with my experience something begin LG Gabi
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Fr, 14/12/2007 - 22:37
which the others have written I over it still nothing read thus could lg gabi
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IHRT really hasnt mentioned insurance fraud but we have a new record of
8 times by the same person back to Kru - wow! At 55000 euros a pop???
Geeez Lousie!
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